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Hello Everyone, Goodbye Patreon.

Oh no. Clickbait.

Anyway, below are the screenshots of the entire Patreon post I made regarding Patreon’s policies and why they convinced me to leave the site. The post no longer exists on Patreon (along with every other post there) as I have unlaunched my Patreon page and am currently in the process of getting it completely deactivated. Feel free to read at your own time.

*1 – (Rando’s Tweet Disapproving Of Patreon’s Actions)
*2 – (Patreon’s Tweet Denying The Anime-Style Ban)
*3 – (Waero’s Patreon Post Regarding Patreon’s Guidelines)

8 thoughts on “Hello Everyone, Goodbye Patreon.

  1. I, for one, understand Patreon’s move… Or, rather, the rationale for it. They’re covering their own asses, and with the way some lawmakers and enforcement agencies are trigger-happy, I can’t in good conscience blame them.

    Is it shitty? Yes, it absolutely is. But Patreon will do what is good for Patreon – and if they even get a whiff that they could be held accountable-by-proxy for something one of their users is doing? They’re going to divorce that user, hard. I’m sure there’s at least one law that can be used to saddle them with an “accesory to” charge, and they’re making too much money to risk defending your rights (if you are within them).

    Yes, this is a creeping infringement upon your right to express yourself. And no, it doesn’t originate with Patreon. It’s originating with the people who openly and boldly claim that those who like loli should be castrated with live ammunition, and other such people.

    The same thing is happening with services like YouTube and copyrights – if there’s even a remote chance that your content might be violating someone’s copyright, it’s going to get flagged and you’ll have to defend yourself (even if their content came out after you published your video, I shit you not). This is because of bullies who can throw a lot of money around to bully those around them – and if we didn’t speak out against it, we essentially agreed to it by inaction.

    This is much of the same. Someone like that doesn’t like your shit? They can scare others with legal sanctions so hefty, they wouldn’t even think to associate themselves with someone who might be skirting the definitions, even just a little. Even if you do, eventually, win the court battle… you’ve been prevented from living your life (financially by tying your money up in legal fees, emotionally by being drained by the constant stress, by robbing you of your time you could be spending on something you’d much prefer, etc.) enough that most don’t really want to even chance such a disruption. And this… is pretty much the definition of being bullied.

    But…

    It.
    Works.

    And that people who aren’t guilty of anything get hit with shrapnel? As long as the money’s rolling in – who cares, right?

    Ugh.

    So don’t blame Patreon – they’re really looking out for themselves. They’re not a charity, after all – and if I were Patreon, I’d much rather give that money away to my users than spend it on legal battles defending their right of free expression (if I had to lose that money anyway).

  2. May I suggest using Liberapay as an alternative to Patreon. It’s open-source and run by a non-profit organiztion. You should totally check them out.

  3. Wait, you are not brazilian? In the next video you will reveal puss not to be a cat? I’m confused after this video, but will visit again.

    Wish you all the best!

  4. Damn good call.
    Patreon has removed many of my favourite YouTubers for things they did in the real world, or in completely different platforms unrelated to their own.

    Patreon has corrupted its original values, and now sees itself as the one paying the creators, not the man-in-the-middle that it actually is.
    Which is why it tries to control the branding and behaviour of all its creators.

    I’d recommend SubscribeStar as an alternative, apparently they give a better cut, and won’t try control your actions outside of their own platform.

    • Actually, the problem lies with legislation. If you’re a payment processor in whatever way, shape or form, you can essentially be saddled with fucked-up shit like “money laundering”, “funding terrorism”, “accessory to a crime” and other fun things.

      It’s meant to apply pressure to such payment processors (like, for instance, banks and card operators), so that when you want to shut someone down, the mere mention of such accusations will make payment processors drop you like a hot fucking potato.

      It’s a method of bullying people into submission. “Don’t do {X}, or nobody will process your payments.” It’s a great way to reach companies that you believe are doing illegal shit, but technically aren’t within your jurisdiction.

  5. Hi Rando, thanks for this video. You seem going fine and that’s good news 🙂 best luck with new project and take care

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